A conversation with Jennifer Tory - Part 4

Helena Gottschling: Now, I know you have two daughters. We've talked about that, and where they're going in their careers. You're involved in the community - a lot. How do you do it all?

Jennifer Tory: Well, certainly it's easier now that the girls are older...

Helena Gottschling: They're older.

Jennifer Tory: ...and they've got lives that are very busy, too. But, I think it's all about discipline. I really do. If I think about how I managed the pieces - and I often get asked this by young women, actually, "Do you have to sacrifice your children to be able to have a successful career?" - and my answer to that is, "Well, you could if you weren't disciplined." I know you're very good about that, as well, Helena. You have to make choices as to what's really important to you on both sides of the equation, so that you can establish your priorities without feeling guilty all the time, because I think that's the thing that women...

Helena Gottschling: Tend to do.

Jennifer Tory: ...tend to do. I know what's important to me, and when I think about the community work, it's part of my DNA. My mother in particular was very much involved in the community, and my father was uber-businessman. If I think about community service, it was something that was, as I say, in my DNA, and because RBC, it's in RBC's DNA, that piece of the puzzle fits in, as well, and so it never has felt like an add-on.

Helena Gottschling: It's just part of who you are.

Jennifer Tory: It is. But it is a busy life. I'm not sitting there pretending that I don't put in a lot of hours to juggle all the pieces, but I've often asked my daughters, actually, do they feel hard done by because I've worked all these years. Maybe when they were younger they might have answered the question very differently but I probably waited 'til they were old enough to answer it to say that they're glad, because it's exposed them to a very different life than it might have otherwise...

Helena Gottschling: Yeah, exactly. And they probably developed skills and experiences just being part of your family unit, and how you have managed work, as well as community, as well as being a mother - great role model for them, for sure.

Jennifer Tory: But you can't be afraid to say what's important to you, and I think that's sometimes the mistake that particularly women make, is that they don't speak up and say, "I can't do a 7:00 a.m. meeting...

Helena Gottschling: Right. Or say no once in a while.

Jennifer Tory: ...because I have to get the kids to school." Or say no once in a while. Or have it in their heads that they're prepared to be out in the community one night a week when their kids are young, as opposed to four. Or make job choices at that stage, where I can't necessarily take that role now, but I'd certainly like it in the future. So, that's the kind of...

Helena Gottschling: Advice that you'd give women.